Emily Dickinson´s poem 190

He was weak, and I was strong-then-
So He let me lead him in-
I was weak, and He was strong then-
So I let him lead me-Home.

'Twasn't far-the door was near-
'Twasn't dark-for He went-too-
'Twasn't loud, for He said nought-
That was all I cared to know.

Day knocked-and we must part-
Neither-was strongest-now-
He strove-and I strove-too-
We didn't do it-tho'!

Neptunic downsides

BY Marga Bervoets at Astropost
Neptune can fade away friendships and undermine fundations. Neptune is the symbol of what is FAKE, the trick, the picture and the movie.
Neptune makes you cross borders and step over them. That is why dreamers, idealists, rolling stones, distant travellers, and users of certain drugs are all part of the Neptune-thing. I know a person who stepped out of bed in the night and his dog took his place in bed. He came back and decided to take the couch! Neptune is unlimited love and adoration. Visions, fantasies and creative thinking...Neptune! And everything that is secret and hidden...also part of the myth and the symbol of Neptune. Ne-ptune might be ne-gative. For example when alcohol is abused or used witout limits or when you are part of a media hype against you (because gossip = fantasy and...Neptune, yes!).
Seduction is Neptunic, because Neptune is also romance. Romance, really, is not true, I am afraid. It is what you make of it. Media and mediums are also Neptunic. If you cannot touch it, feel it or grab it, if is amorph and immaterial...it is Neptune. Scandals are part of this planet's meaning, because what is scandal in one place is nothing elsewhere. Scandal is what you make of it. Sensitivity and empathy are Neptunic, as you just could not point a finger on the effect. It is there, but what is it? If there would be a scientific explanation, it would not be Neptunic. But as long as there is no, yes, it is Neptune working!

Can you imagine that Neptune related to Mercury causes misunderstandings and fabulous stories?
Or that secret actings and acts could be related to Mars with Neptune?

An overdosis of Neptune makes you naive, weak and overly sensitive. You might start copying your friends' behavious or say what the other does not want to mention. Neptune might turn you into a mental sponge.

Psyche at your Destiny´s gate


The VERTEX: The vertex is a theoretical point in the heavens where the ecliptic-the apparent orbit of the Sun around the earth-crosses the prime vertical-the plane that runs at right angles to the meridian and divides the celestial sphere from front to back. The word vertex comes from the Latin root word vertere, meaning to change, to turn, turn frequently or spin. It also can mean a crowning point, summit, top or crest. Words having this Latin root include vertebrae, (joint, having something to turn on) vertigo (dizzy, disoriented, spun out) vertical (from top to bottom) versatile (doing many things at once, to turn from one thing to another) and verticil (a circular arrangement around a fixed point, a whorl). The common theme here highlights change or movement, from one point to another, where the center remains fixed or the same.

The vertex appears as a sensitive point linked to fateful encounters with others, seemingly sudden epiphanies, turning points in life and a destiny over which we have no apparent control. Activated, it can synchronize with an experience of another whose effect registers as some degree of profound or extraordinary.

16 PSYCHE: Psyche represents a refined love, an urge to develop psychic bonds with another. There is a longing and searching quality in Psyche that vacillates between determined progress and hopeless surrender. Both extreme states seem requisite to the process of Psyche’s quest. She knows what she wants, searches for it selflessly, then finds herself faced with a seemingly impossible task. She may give up, at this point, in despair, only to find that by surrendering, support appears as if by magic.

I´m through with Neptune love


Es cansado, me voy de vacaciones

Que no haría yo por tí................blush



-¿Lo dice en serio? -le preguntó.
-Desde que nací -dijo Florentino Ariza-, no he dicho una sola cosa que no sea en
serio.
El capitán miró a Fermina Daza y vio en sus pestañas los primeros destellos de una escarcha invernal. Luego miró a Florentino Ariza, su dominio invencible, su amor
impávido, y lo asustó la sospecha tardía de que es la vida, más que la muerte, la que no tiene límites.
-¿Y hasta cuándo cree usted que podemos seguir en este ir y venir del carajo? -le
preguntó.
Florentino Ariza tenía la respuesta preparada desde hacía cincuenta y tres años,siete meses y once días con sus noches.
-Toda la vida --dijo.

Final de El amor en los tiempos del cólera, de Gabriel García Márquez

Everything may come between us, but....


Sade no podía faltar en una neptunada como esta

Moon square Uranus
When the Moon is conjunct, square, quincunx, or opposition Uranus in synastry, the initial attraction can be exciting in an unconventional way. The Moon person feels a little off-center around the Uranus person, generally in a good way, but it depends greatly on the temperament of the Moon person. The Uranus person somehow enters into the Moon person's life suddenly, and feelings that are stirred and aroused in Moon can be powerful.

Uranus interchart aspects create an electric chemistry that feels exciting and fascinating, and seem to promise a great time when there is an attraction in place. However, there can be a very unsettled feeling between the two people, and marked periods of vacillation between emotional closeness and emotional distance. The Moon person might complain that when he or she is feeling needy or simply desiring closeness, the Uranus person is absent (either physically or emotionally). The Uranus person might complain that the Moon person is too conservative, too domestic, or too somber at times. If the couple lives together, living arrangements are bound to be unusual, and there can be a marked lack of routine that is most unsettling to the Moon person. Even if this is the only hard aspect of Uranus in synastry, or if the couple has an overall sense of stability with one another, the presence of this aspect in their synastry will show up as a tendency to argue over domestic arrangements and routines, as well as a rollercoaster ride on an emotional level. Rebelliousness, especially on the part of the Uranus individual, with regards to conventional routines or domestic arrangements, as well as emotional intimacy, is a theme in this relationship. If hard interaspects of Uranus with personal planets appear elsewhere, the relationship probably started suddenly and developed quickly. This unexpected or erratic quality re-surfaces throughout the relationship as intermittent periods of nervousness and periodic disruptions.

Moon square or opposition other person's Pluto

You will need to work through some power struggles and even some psychological demons you bring with you from past experiences. Curbing reactiveness and projection is something you will be challenged to resolve through trial and error. Because your feelings are so intense, fear of loss can be generated, which in turn can give rise to jealousy, control or possessiveness. These emotional responses will not get you what you want. If you can't easily resolve your conflicts, seek professional help. Once you settle your power struggles with each other, you will have much to offer the world and your community.

Moon conjunct Mercury

You enjoy long, intimate conversations, confiding in each other, sharing your inner feelings and thoughts. You enjoy "psychoanalyzing" each other and others as well. At worst, this can degrade into gossip and at best it can provide a depth of mutual understanding and self-discovery that is enlightening, nourishing, and refreshing. Moon has a seemingly uncanny ability to sense what Mercury is thinking or wanting to say. At times, Mercury's responses may seem overly logical or rational to Moon, who could be in the mood to enjoy more tender, hard to define moments. Mercury is compelled to find answers to Moon's comments, complaints, and problems. Sometimes, Moon isn't really looking for answers. Instead, Moon is simply looking to express feelings to get them out in the air, and answers or solutions are not necessary.

Moon opposition Mercury

Lively, insightful conversations are frequent in this relationship. You love confiding in each other, pouring out your deepest concerns, fears, and hopes to each other. You also enjoy discussing and analyzing issues at length. In general, these conversations are enjoyable and enlightening, but occasionally they may degrade into gossip and Mercury may sometimes take an overly intellectual, cool, detached approach to Moon's feelings. You may find that you take each other rather personally, with Moon being particularly sensitive when Mercury takes on a cerebral approach or stance on an issue.

THE SECRET MARRIAGE, by Sting


Sun conjunct Moon
When the Sun in one chart is conjunct with the Moon in the other, there is an extremely strong indication of a powerful romantic relationship and potential for marriage. The Moon person is emotionally in tune with the Sun person. This relationship works best if the Sun person is naturally in a role of leadership. In a marriage relationship, this aspect shows a strong sexual attraction. In this aspect, there is some tendency for the Sun to dominate the Moon to a degree. In any event, the conjunction makes two people fast friends with a deep mutual understanding and appreciation of one another. The spirit of cooperation is significant.

Sun sextile Sun in synastry:

This aspect is a very supportive one in any chart comparison. It helps iron out other differences. There is a great deal of compatibility between you, for you understand and are in harmony with one another's basic needs, aims, and approach to life. You build up, encourage, and affirm one another's worth and self-esteem, and you find one another's company very comfortable and natural. This is a mutually beneficial relationship.

Every time you go away


Venus in flowing aspect (sextile, trine) to other person's Uranus

This aspect is a supportive one. Life is naturally exciting when you are with each other. You share some perhaps unusual interests, and you are usually accepting of one another's social life, tastes, and hobbies. There may be something pleasingly unconventional about your set-up. Love doesn't easily become routine for the two of you. The Venus person is romantically drawn to the Uranus person's more unusual and unique qualities. The Uranus person feels appreciated and finds the Venus person particularly charming and attractive. This interchart aspect also encourages creative expression in both partners.
Additional Interpretations:

^All Venus-Uranus aspects: You were attracted immediately. There was something unique about each other that caught your attention. You sensed a special insight into your deepest-felt values and this inspired in you feelings of warmth. You may share unusual or advanced interests.

Is this URST, what I´m feeling?

Unresolved sexual tension is a common mechanism in fiction, which enables the relationship between characters to build up a powerful erotic charge without actually becoming sexual.

Unresolved sexual tension is a common scriptwriter's technique, and was used to provide the main character drive in TV series such as Moonlighting. When the sexual tension was resolved, the tension that made the relationship interesting to the audience disappeared.

History

The acronym URST became common terminology within society through the Australian TV series Secret Life of Us. URST became a very popular term, around the water cooler, following the show. The show also helped to spread URST to other countries in which it was aired, such as the UK, New Zealand and Canada. UST is also popular with X-Files fans, concerning the relationship of Mulder and Scully.

See also

Best cases of Unresolved Sexual Tension Ever

In my dreams


again

it is at moments after i have dreamed

it is at moments after i have dreamed
of the rare entertainment of your eyes,
when (being fool to fancy) i have deemed

with your peculiar mouth my heart made wise;
at moments when the glassy darkness holds

the genuine apparition of your smile
(it was through tears always)and silence moulds
such strangeness as was mine a little while;

moments when my once more illustrious arms
are filled with fascination, when my breast
wears the intolerant brightness of your charms:

one pierced moment whiter than the rest

-turning from the tremendous lie of sleep
i watch the roses of the day grow deep.

E.E. Cummings

u don´t know me


Venus trine Pluto

This is a very supportive interchart aspect that enhances sexual attraction and expression and the overall sense of emotional fulfillment derived from a relationship. The tendency to be consumed by one another and by the relationship is here. There is little chance of this relationship growing routine or stale. Both parties seem to enjoy moving forward and growing through the relationship, so that each feels a sense of relief and enlightenment after a relationship challenge or argument.

Alpha males (trine mars,moon,venus) and other


Why Alpha Females Should Choose Alpha Males
By Cynthia Smith, published May 21, 2007

Becoming the ultimate Alpha male is one of the hottest topics there is. Countless e-books exist which purport to teach a submissive Beta male how to develop Alpha traits. However, there aren't enough books that teach an Alpha female how to work with her Alpha male? How do you mesh the personalities of two people who are both dominant and bossy and who like to get their way?

Why would an Alpha male want an Alpha female when he wants to be in charge? Why would an Alpha female want an Alpha male when she needs to be in control?

In order to understand why this apparent oxymoron exists, one has to understand biology; in fact, one needs to understand wolf biology because the whole tagging of people as Alphas and Betas is based on observance of wolf pack behavior.

In the jungle, wolves live in packs. The pack is usually led by a dominant male, which animal sociologists call the Alpha male. The Alpha male mates with one female. She is the dominant female of the pack and she is called the Alpha female. She is dominant over the rest of the pack, males and females alike. She is submissive to only one wolf and that is the Alpha wolf. The male values her because she has the strength and intelligence to produce strong offspring

I'm discussing wolf behavior simply to point out an obvious fact. The Alpha female is dominant over all except her Alpha male. Alpha women do not need to feel ashamed that we want men to lead after all. We are still leaders on our jobs and in our places of worship.

No matter how much we, as women evolve, there are still parts of our female psyches that seek the protector. We still seek that man who can enter a room, assess the situation and take charge. When we meet men who don't have those strong leadership skills, we become frustrated and dominate them. If they are not worthy of leading us, then they should cower at our feet. No?

Forbidden fruit of a forbidden fruit: tiring job

Lilith conjunct Venus:is about the venus' lesson of having to resist the temptation of Lillith. This aspect shows a lot of magnetism and attraction between the two parties...the problem with this synastry aspect is that it is usually the so called 'forbidden fruit's' type of attraction.


When we take on too much, more problems, projects, responsibilities or relationships than we have time for, this is the Ten of Wands. Occasionally we think we are superhuman and take on more than we have time and the attention span for. We overburden ourselves with responsibilities that eat away at our lives and don't allow us to be able to do our best job in any one area. Or even worse, we might burn out over the stress of all these tasks and not be able to accomplish any of them. This is the danger inherent in the wands. Our creativity and energy level might spur us on to achieve new heights, but in the heat of the moment we conveniently forget about the current commitments and burdens we must carry that we owe time and energy to as well.

This card shows a woman troubled by the overabundance of obligations she has created. She is burning up with wands' energy; she is unable to take on all of her responsibilities and is burning up the city around her. She has been mesmerized by the light of the wands and is now being consumed by her own devices.

This card warns us against taking on too much. What our imagination tells us we can do often is not as well grounded in reality as it should be. Reserve some time for yourself. Budget your extra time, unburden yourself of some responsibilities and tasks if you can. Delegate responsibilities if possible. Don't let the energy of the Ten of Wands burn you up or out.

The negative of this card might be the casting off of burdens through emotional burn-out or physical collapse. The situation has progressed beyond the point of repair and there is no choice but to pick up the pieces. Another negative interpretation of this card could be burdens might have been tossed aside in rebellion to the limitations required and a new direction has been determined in a person's life.
From PSYMON TAROT

Embrujada...Bewitched:Help,don´t save me

Que se j....Neptuno: aquí está marte



Venus square other person's Mars

This is likely to be a stormy and fiery relationship. The romantic attraction between you is very strong, but your feelings are often not in tune with each other. One of you (typically the Mars person but sometimes the Venus person) may feel sexually aroused by the other and consequently be too aggressive in approach, while the other person feels great love and affection, but is not feeling as sexually attracted. The conflict here is all in the timing. The Venus person may sometimes find the Mars person comes on too strong, and is often offended or taken aback by his or her directness. Jealousy and possessiveness are also likely. Feelings can swing back and forth and you may not realize how much you love each other until you are away from each other.

Psyche, Perséfone,Cinderella has got new shoes


Just make sure that the shoes are not those red shoes

Eros represents our awareness of our mortality. Because we know we are going to die, we continually recreate feelings (confirmation, if you will) of our own vitality. We can so do in a Leonine way—for example, through romance, bearing children, and creativity. Eros love is very self-centered. Eros is, indeed, turned on by the idea that they are arousing someone else, but this kind of "feedback" is very much used to feed our own need to feel alive and vital.

Eros opposed psyche:eros and psyche finding each other is a metaphor for the soul (psyche) finding what it desires most (eros). This aspect, shows that the couple fulfills each others' desires.
Eros conjunct venus:"If one person's Eros makes an aspect to another person's planet, the Eros person is smitten with the Planet person."I
Psyche conjunct vertex:In synastry, Psyche highlights areas of intuitive understanding or lack of understanding between the individuals.

Transpersonal? Venus Neptune,Uranus,Pluto...


Venus parallel Neptune
You share a spiritual love for one another, adore one another and feel the other is too good to be true. You feel blessed to have found each other. When you are together you are in love with love and do not see the other clearly. This can lead to self-deception---or can manifest as unconditional love, in which you willingly sacrifice for one another. You inspire one another and encourage the other's artistic self-expression.
Venus parallel Pluto
You are drawn by a passionate sexual attraction and re-attraction. Your intensity deepens over time rather than lessening. A desire to control, manipulate or sexually dominate your partner may well be a part of this mystical binding that begins with physical passion and through spiritual struggle and transformation seems to go to the core of unconditional love. If your partner's Pluto is parallel your Venus, a complete transformation of your attitudes about love and relationship will occur as you and your partner work through an intensely passionate physical and spiritual love, where your partner's fascination with you can become an obsession, and issues of trust and acceptance are aroused and resolved between the two of you.

I´m all right, I´ve been lonely before


Jupiter opposite or square Saturn:
This combination tends to create a certain amount of stagnation in a relationship. The Saturn person usually hinders the enthusiasm of the Jupiter indivdual and the Jupiter person may be careless with the resources of the Saturn individual. Often there is a difference of philosophy. In business relationships, this tends to create financial ruin.

Kermit and Miss Piggy : the dominant female fantasy



You came,
I was alone,
I should have known,
you were temptation!

You smiled,
luring me on,
my heart was gone,
and you were temptation!

It would be thrilling if you were willing,
and if it can never be, pity me,
for you were born to be kissed,
I can’t resist, you are temptation,
and I am yours!

Here is my heart!
Take it and say, that we’ll never part!
I’m just a slave, only a slave,
to you!

Temptation,
I’m your slave!

~ from the MGM film "Going Hollywood"
Music by Nacio Herb Brown and lyrics by Arthur Freed , 1933
EMI-Robbins Catalog Inc. ~ ASCAP

I love your eyes, my dear

The other woman, Costello & Von Otter

Forever

Composite Neptune 12th house


Neptune in the Twelfth House, well aspected, brings success in research work of a scientific or occult nature which is carried on in secret or far from the haunts of men. It also indicates a secret soul-satisfying or clandestine but honorable relationship with someone which will bring benefit to both and it not infrequently happens that this friend is in the spirit world, but the relations is much more close in such cases than it can ever be between friends who are both in the physical body. When Neptune is afflicted in the Twelfth House it gives a liability to confinement and restraint in a public institution such as a hospital, asylum, or prison, on account of secret but powerful enemies, a chronic and noisome disease or insanity due to perverted practices.

Neptune square venus, the black spot

Did you see your Venus Neptune contact? I did. Do you know what that indicates? You find this in the chart of dreamers. Venus Neptune is all about dreaming up the lover, imagining him into something supernatural. You often find it in women in love with unavailable men- like priests, or men in jail for life.

That's because with no actual man around, it's very easy to imagine the guy any way you want him. Think about it. You're lying in bed dreaming about your unavailable guy. Do you think about him farting? Do you think about him cranky and brooding, unavailable, and bitchy? Hell no! In your fantasy, he's always responding to you in just the right way. He touches you just right. His breath makes your skin crazy and so forth. Sound like I know what I'm talkin' about? ::laughs:: Well, that's because I have a Venus Neptune aspect myself!

So, here's the deal. That guy in jail... the priest... the married guy in another state... well your imagination is so powerful, look what it can do. At the moment, you prefer him to the man who lives next door, who could actually do something for you. Or the man who lives just around the corner. And you have yourself so convinced, you are willing to be loyal to this hologram which frankly, can ultimately only let you down.

'Cause here's what'll happen. You'll go see him, he'll breathe on you and you'll get your five minutes of bliss. Shortly thereafter, reality will dawn on you. You know: you live here, he lives there, no one is moving. And besides that, he still has a wife? Come on, man. It's hopeless.

I suggest you quit feeding this. Have your agony about your lost soulmate, Writhe around for awhile, amd then get yourself on Match.com. Make sure the guy you hook up has no wife and lives close by. You know. Find someone or something viable, and dream that guy up. Because you can, you know. It's what you do. And if you give this just thirty seconds of thought, you'll see what I mean. A Dream Lover you can actually touch? Yum.

Good luck.
~~
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But also Neptune /Venus parallel, Neptune Rising
1. Let Me Lose Myself in You! (or Calgon, Take Me Away)
Cross aspects between person A's birth Neptune and person B's birth luminaries and personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus and Mars)....

The conjunction, trine and sextile aspects are (for the most part) a wee bit "easier" to handle - with the conjunction being the most intense connection.

Cross aspects involving Neptune and the other person's luminaries and personal planets can even hold true with sign conjunctions and oppositions that aren't necessarily within orb aspect - but generally speaking: the closer, the better.

Finding what's sometimes called a "double whammy" cross aspect - such as person A's Neptune conjunct person B's Venus and person B's Neptune sextile person A's Venus -- is all the better for creating that special connection feeling. A double whammy helps create a stronger mutuality of feeling.

Needed your touch, and the sun came out

Dance With Life (The Brilliant Light) - Bryan Ferry
Song lyrics | Dance With Life (Brilliant Light) lyrics

Artrage original : I´ve never needed you

Your alter ego

UNREQUITED

I miss you, Spiderman


Jupiter - Moon aspects

Jupiter opposite Moon

Your nature is generous and optimistic but your inclination toward mood swings or going to extremes is a bit more difficult to balance with this aspect. Still, it is important that you do this. Poor judgment arising out of excessive optimism can get you into trouble or open you to being taken advantage of. Be careful whom you trust and, if something looks too good to be true, it probably isn't. Be joyful but not naïve. Check all claims for accuracy and veracity and you will be much happier and keep more of your resources. Resist gambling or excessive boasting about your accomplishments. Be sure to balance the advantages offered you by giving back.

This energy between you expresses the endless possibilities available and encourages the freedom to express your emotions. At the same time, the aspect leans towards excessive expression. Whether an expression is excessive, over the top or fitting for a particular context, is something the two of you will have to decide. How much is too much and the resultant consequences, is the learning curve you will be testing together. This aspect requires that both of you determine how you are exceeding your boundaries and whether that’s a good thing or not. Emotions will go out of control from time to time particularly when one of you is overwhelmed with too much to handle. The intent of this aspect is to teach you better judgment and encourage wisdom from the many and varied experiences you actively seek. There will be times of poor judgment when you will discover that you failed to take an important element of a situation into consideration. Resist saying "yes" until you’ve evaluated the conditions or slept on the idea or proposition. Exaggeration and failing to keep promises will create problems for you and so will overoptimism without full knowledge of the facts. If you experience too much "bad luck", re-evaluate your choices and be sure to be generous wherever you can to maintain the balance between taking and giving in your lives together.

Moon conjunct other person's Jupiter

You evoke joy, hope, goodwill and a sense of adventure in each other. So much so that you could also be easily induced to overdo and overextend yourselves in various ways. You are likely to stimulate a wealth of feelings in each other and a generally open-minded attitude. You probably want the good life and all that it implies for you. Abundance or excessiveness is part of this aspect, which is certainly not always a negative. It’s up to the two of your to decide how far to reach and how far to extend yourselves. Essentially a positive influence of opportunities, and an expression of generosity, the energy you generate together can bring you all kinds of good fortune. As a team, you can be a beacon of encouragement, hope and positive influence wherever you go. Your most important lesson is balance and wise choices that not only enhance joy but also maintain a level of stability. Looking on the upside is easy for you but be sure to consider the downside and the consequences of your risk-taking and expansion. Make certain you can afford it energetically, emotionally, spiritually or financially. Look for a strong Saturn aspect between your charts to counterbalance the overly optimistic tendency of this aspect (Saturn square Jupiter?). Take the necessary time to assess expectations which may be unrealistic. Then again, the two of you can break records and surpass goals by the sheer force of your willingness to move ahead and try something new. Your enthusiasm will open doors and create opportunities. More than that, the natural positive energy between you can provide endless resources and options when times get tough.

What Neptune means


Neptune is the ruler of Pisces.

Neptune is a symbol of the universal truth that all life is connected. In mythology, Neptune is the god of the sea. He has a dissolving influence on the area of life symbolized by the part of the chart he occupies. He dissolves boundaries and structures considered to be reality; therefore, reality and unreality are sometimes difficult to distinguish in this area. A desire to escape reality through fantasy or other means is common with Neptune.

It is this blurring of boundaries that is Neptune’s greatest gift, however. A strong Neptune indicates creative gifts, deep empathy and compassionate understanding of others.

Neptune in your chart symbolizes imagination and artistic talent, as well as psychic ability.

Neptune circles the zodiac in 125 years. He spends about 10 years in each sign. Everyone born in the same 10-year period as you will have Neptune in the same sign.

Some keywords for Neptune are:
Confusion, Dissolution Compassion, Psychic ability
Lies, Deception, Illusion
Art, Music, Theater, Film, Photography
Escapism: Drugs, Alcohol and other means of avoiding Reality
Addictions
Spirituality
Confinement

Neptune rules:
Large Institutions (the Military, Hospitals, etc.)
Oil and Petroleum Products (plastics)
The Feet
Violins, stringed instruments

for heavenssake,is that wat I reaLLY want??

Anreas Capellanus: The Art of Courtly Love


The Art of Courtly love, aunque prefiera el otro, es lo que hay
Pardiez, es que se queda una fatal!